Dual Sired Litter

People have asked me at various times why I did a dual sired litter.  I've seen all sorts of wild theories on the internet thrown about as to why a breeder would do this, from "they breed the bitch extra times to try to make as many pups as they can to make as much profit as possible" to "they were careless and let more than one male breed the bitch".  Some people even accused the breeders of trying to pull a "fast one", although I've never been sure exactly what the con would be 🙂

In 2008 I did a dual sired litter, using Flip, Mac and Havok.  I did it for a number of reasons.  One reason is 2 litters for the "price" of one in terms of wear/tear on the female and down time from training.  It also cuts the risk to the female in half, as she only has to go through one pregnancy and delivery.  If the dam of the litter was primarily someone's competition dog, this would give them the chance to continue her genetics, with the least amount of down time.  Another reason was that I thought it would be an interesting blind study on what the two males produced. It's interesting to evaluate pups when you aren't sure who was sired by who, so there is no bias in terms of traits. I got lucky and my litter was half and half on the sires. And I was only about half and half on accuracy of guessing who was sired by each male.  I know someone else who planned to do it because they had leased the bitch for just 1 litter, and really wanted to breed her to two different males.   I could also see doing it if you had a female who was getting up there, who you felt should only be bred 1 more time but you wanted to breed her to more than one male.  One other scenario which I have heard is a female that only has 1 breeding available, due to age, length of lease, etc and while the breeder really wanted pups from frozen semen, they wanted to make sure the female took.  So they did an AI with the female, waited a few days to give it a chance to "take", then did a natural breeding after that.

Dual sired litters are not cheap, with the DNA, extra registration expenses, etc so it's not something I think people get into just on a whim.  You also run the risk of getting a litter that actually only has one sire. 

The down sides of this type of breeding was the timing of the DNA results, the pups were 8 weeks and ready to go to their new homes, but I still didn't have the DNA results back from AKC. And I had swabbed and mailed them off when the pups were 3 days old. Most of my homes didn't care which sire their pup was from, but a couple were hoping to get a pup from a specific sire so it threw a wrench in things. It also added a lot to the overall cost, I believe the DNA, extra registration fees, etc was about $600.00. But I would do it again, in the right circumstances.

To keep the pups straight, I assigned each sire's pups a different litter letter.

R Litter
Q Litter

Also the results of the DNA tests are listed below, along with how the decision was made regarding the sire of each pup.

 

Q/R DNA Results

The following are the DNA markers for the Q and R litters. The markers in black/bold are the markers which are unique to one specific sire, the other markers could have come from either sire. Two of the pups have a marker which does not specifically identify them with either sire, or doesn't agree with their other unique markers regarding parentage. Per AKC "in some instances, a pup will have an exclusion at only one marker. A single marker exclusion may be the result of a mutation event and, from a statistical standpoint, does not provide sufficient evidence to conclusively rule out parentage. Parentage of a sire/dam is considered excluded when the alleles at two or more markers are excluded". These markers are indicated in red.  Havok's pups are yellow, Mac's are green.

 

NAME Markers GENDER
Havok BD DI AC EH AD FZ CD CC DE AC DD BE BE XY
Mac DD EJ AD CE CD EG CD BC DH CC DG DD BC XY
Flip DD CE AA CE CE GG CC BC BD AC DG BD CE XX
 
Spot BD CI AA EH DE FG CD BC BD AC DD DE BC XY
Milo DD EI AA EE AE GZ CC CC BD AA DG BE BC XY
Flash DD CJ AA CE DE GG CD CC DD CC DG BD BE XX
Yoodle DD EJ AA CC CC FG CD BC BD AC DD DD BC XX
Xtreme BD CI AA EH CD FG CC BC DD AA DG BB EE XX
Seven DD EE AA CE CD GG CC CC DD CC GG BD CC XX
Fancy DD CJ AD EE CD EG CC BC BH CC DF BD CE XX

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